From - Tue Feb 20 18:08:10 2001 X-UIDL: d9fe2bd5fbc91643 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: lacall-onemodel:org-lacall@onemodel.org X-Envelope-To: lacall@onemodel.org Received: (qmail 70036 invoked by uid 800); 20 Feb 2001 14:11:00 -0000 Date: 20 Feb 2001 14:11:00 -0000 Message-ID: <20010220141100.70035.qmail@uruz.pair.com> To: lacall@onemodel.org References: <3A927AE2.4010408@onemodel.org> In-Reply-To: <3A927AE2.4010408@onemodel.org> X-Loop: general-digest-list@onemodel.org From: general-digest-list-request@onemodel.org Reply-To: Please.write.a.new.mail.instead.of.replying@FIRST.WORD.archive Content-ID: <"volume00/6"%general-digest-list-request@onemodel.org> Subject: archive retrieval: volume00/6 Precedence: bulk Content-Disposition: inline; filename="volume00/6" Content-Type: message/rfc822; directory="volume00"; name="6" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: general-digest-list-request@onemodel.org Subject: general-digest-list Digest V00 #6 X-Loop: general-digest-list@onemodel.org X-Mailing-List: archive/volume00/6 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: general-digest-list@onemodel.org Reply-To: general-list@onemodel.org ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain general-digest-list Digest Volume 00 : Issue 6 Today's Topics: Re: mailing list software [ Lee Howard ] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 20:09:37 -0600 From: Lee Howard To: General-list@onemodel.org Subject: Re: mailing list software Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000813200937.0080c440@server.deanox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >What I'm using now is the SmartList service provided by pair.com for no >additional charge, but its support is deprecated and they say it isn't >maintained anymore. Upon checking (finally) I just found out the new >list service is free for 20,000 messages a month that they use to >replace smartlist (mailman or something; in python). So maybe we're OK >for now but it's good to know we have stuff avaiable, and the >availability is much appreciated. SmartList is secure (well, as secure as e-mail can be - spoofing e-mail is quite easy) with username and password checking (for the administrator). You'll want to check out the config files, particularly the accept file. You can list in the accept file everyone that's allowed to submit posts. If a random few make it in, well, it's not a big deal. I've set up a few mailing lists, some commercial, and some for family, but no outside problems yet. In one of the config files you can set it to accept mail only from those on the dist list. I think that's called FOREIGN_SUBMIT if I recall right. >Lee or Mark--do we have CVS available, especially with a read-only web >link? It would be good to check lists & documentse & code in/out but >have them the latest version posted automatically at our web site. >Thoughts; opinions? I know about CVS, but I'm not familiar with the inner workings of it. If we're going to have a number of programmers working on the project, then I would suggest that the project be divided modularly, but that work on any part be left open, each keep his own stash of code around, and that someone be nominated to "maintain" an authoritative version. From what I know, I think CVS is really designed for programming groups larger than this. >And while we're at it, do you, Lee and Mark want your names on our web >site, since you go "way back" more any anyone but Tom in this project. I >have had it both ways but it's easiest to ask what y'all prefer. I don't >have any preference. Honestly it doesn't matter to me. Tom and I have served as sounding-boards for each other's ideas for years (sixteen years) now, and it is true that we had conversation about this in its early infancy, and it is true that I wrote MW hoping it to serve Tom in some way (but also as a programming excersize for me) - in my mind, "so what?". I'm particularly more fond of what we called "the honeycomb" or the "bubble chart", which has served me in organizing qualitative things mentally ever since, and which some of my missionary companions oohed and ahhed over - but for which I really couldn't see any practical application. Anyway, same goes here - as I mentioned to Tom in person a couple of weeks ago (or was that last week?), until there's a convincing theory of how to relate two seemingly unrelated topics (take zoology and mathematics) in some significant fashion, in some practical fashion, all of this means very little to me outside of an interesting programming and thinking excersize. >From what I can see, or from what I have understood, it is the hopes of the group (in particular my communication is with Tom) that once a ton of information is put into this database we will begin to see patterns and from that we'll develop theories. Honestly, that's good science. However, I'm rather uninterested in data entry. I'm still suffering some disappointment that the MW program was never really utilized because it would have provided this first step for me, it would have given me a set of data to consider. So anyway, I could realistically be viewed as a critic or antagonist as much as anything else. Putting my name somewhere to indicate complete support of the project may not be 100% accurate for anything more than historical purposes. Lee. -------------------------------- End of general-digest-list Digest V00 Issue #6 **********************************************